Experience Description

Transcribed and written by Joseph Khasho
Edited and approved by Luis H

I had been dealing with a breathing problem when I was asleep and would wake up in the middle of the night gasping for air. It would happen about once a week and I’d just have to sit up quickly and wait a few seconds, sometimes longer, until I could breathe normally again. It became kind of normal for me but then one night, it didn’t go away. I woke up like before, but this time I struggled to catch my breath, gasping harder than usual. My wife was exhausted with her own issues sleeping so initially I didn’t want to wake her thinking it would improve. But something felt wrong. Panic set in and when I turned to the left to wake up my wife, I heard a female voice say, "Relax and let go. All is well." and then I was both looking at my body and still in it though the feeling of panic disappeared. The voice I heard was a calm, gentle female voice. I can't really describe it because it was unlike anything I’d ever heard. Metallic-sounding is the only thing I can say but it was still feminine. So one moment I was there struggling to breathe, and the next I was watching myself.

Then I heard the voice again, the exact same words: “Relax and let go. All is well.”

This time, I could pinpoint the location of the voice, it came from the right corner of the room behind the physical me. When I turned my body to look in that direction, I saw a translucent, bluish, fluorescent, clear energy being. The energy being was not human shaped and really hard to describe. As I turned further looking behind me I also saw a human-shaped being of light and to the right of that being was a round shaped light on the wall, like a portal. But before I could fully process what was happening, I was suddenly pulled and went right through the energy-being and was near the other being that was directly behind me but now we were both looking down at my own body from what seemed to be ceiling height in the corner of the room. Strangely, as I looked at myself (my body), I felt little to no connection to it. I did not recognize it or understand why I was even observing it. I only sensed that the body was struggling, gasping for air with this other being next to me who I felt as a friend or someone I can trust. Not recognizing myself, I asked, “What’s wrong with it?”

He replied, “He’s trying to breathe.”

“Breathe? What is that?” I asked.

He said something like, “The body needs to breathe in order to survive”

I didn’t feel fear or any heightened emotions, just curious, observing everything calmly. With respect to the human drama going on, I actually felt a little bored not knowing what I was doing there.

At the moment I was thinking that, the being then asked me, “Are you ready to go?”

And I said, “Yes, I’m ready to go” though I didn’t know where we were going, or who this being actually was. Before we left that earthly scene in my bedroom, I saw my body get wrapped in this bluish cocoon-like energy light (the same exact color of that bluish being I first saw). Then I was pulled out of that scene at an incredible speed, like being vacuumed up.

And then suddenly, I was standing on a beach.

This place, it was amazing; the water, the colors, the sand, it was alive. It was all moving together as if there was a breeze blowing onto it but I didn’t feel any wind. To me it felt like a breeze coming in creating something like music and everything was moving to it, synchronized, like a symphony. It was just beautiful. I was looking at the sand and I felt like I was part of and one with the sand. Interestingly, I could see all of the sand and every grain of sand individually somehow. I could even talk to the sand and the sand was also communicating with me. They were asking me to come touch it and feel it. The same thing happened with the water, I was connected to it. The water was different, more substance/solid and I didn’t get wet, that’s the way I would describe it. The water was communicating with me as well, inviting me to come into it and so I did and it felt like it was healing me, I felt the love from it, again, it was just indescribable.

There was no sun, but the whole place was bright and full of light. Blue skies, white clouds, it felt like heaven. So I turned to the being who was still with me and asked, “Is this heaven?”

He said, “Yes, this is part of what humans call heaven.”

Then I asked, “If this is heaven, where is God?”

And he answered, “God is everywhere, all the time, and in everything.”

That answer didn’t satisfy me, I didn’t get it, this idea that God was everywhere and in everything all the time.

Then this question came out of me despite still not feeling connected to my physical life, “If this is Heaven and if God is real what religion should I be?”

He told me, “You can be a religious person if you like, but you don’t have to be because religion is of man, not of God.”

That made sense so then I asked, “If heaven is real... and God is real... is Jesus real?”

And instantly when I asked that, I was gone, no longer on the beach. I was inside a wooden cabin. Beautiful wood everywhere like maple. I’m a woodworker, and I love wood so I was admiring this wood that was so full of light and alive and I thought to myself, “let me look at this wood” and, when I thought that, I was right there, up close looking at it. Right then the wood transformed into vibrating thin strings of light, like glowing spider webs, of all types of amazing colors running horizontally back and forth as if the lumber was alive. I then backed up to where I was before, before I came close and this time I saw two humongous angels or whatever you want to call them. They were massive beings, strong, all dressed in white and you could see their muscles. I’m 6’3”, but these guys were intimidating and I would guess were at least 30 feet tall. I didn’t turn to look directly at them, but somehow I could see them.

Then I saw a hand reach into the cabin. It was as big as the room and it was also as big as the entire universe. Again, somehow, I knew both at once but I don’t know how to explain that. I could see the bare hand, a male hand, up to the wrist and then a fabric from the wrist to the elbow. The fabric had a band of gold near the wrist with simple small symbols. The hand appeared to be normal, moved down onto the floor and opened up. When the hand opened a figure stepped out. The moment I saw the figure, I just knew exactly who it was even though the being was initially walking towards the wall away from me. It was Jesus. Don’t ask me how I knew this being was Jesus? I don’t know how I knew because I really didn’t know anything about him or anything really specific about that religion coming from a communist country where we couldn’t discuss this. But I just knew it was him and there was no doubt in my mind. As Jesus stepped out of the open hand he took a couple steps forward away from me towards the wall and turned right to walk towards the door frame, an opening but no door. Then there was a white pedestal right in front of the doorway with a humongous thick white book on it, maybe three feet wide. Everything was white and there was this old-style feather quill pen on the pedestal on the right side of the book.

Jesus picked up the quill pen with his right hand and began writing in the book. I was just watching, thinking in disbelief that this is Jesus in front of me. He just kept writing and at some point I figured he’s writing all the bad stuff I’ve done and he’s about to send me to hell because I used to talk a lot of crap about Jesus. I was an atheist and didn’t pay any attention to religion. But then as soon as I thought, “What is he writing?” I was there, right on top of that book. He was writing but I couldn’t see any words that he was writing. Everything was white so it was as he was writing with white ink and I just couldn’t see what was being written.

Then I was back again where I was standing before and this went on for what seemed like forever. Each time I kept thinking that these bad things were going to happen to me, he would pause, smile or chuckle. I thought to myself, "Why is he laughing? Am I in that much trouble?" At this point he communicated to me that he could hear my thoughts. We were actually communicating directly thought-to-thought. Now, as I think back, it humors me too but these concerns were what I was actually thinking there as it was happening.

He eventually stopped writing and backed away. He turned to face me and took a few steps towards me, stopping maybe six feet away. He looked at me and I get emotional when I remember this part because he said:

“I heard you asking for me. So here I am. I’ve always been here with you. And you have always been here with me.”

He said, “We have always been here for you.”

He raised his hand and guided me to the corner of this room. Suddenly, a very long table appeared and I was on one end of it with Jesus on the other side of the table. At the other end of the table there were three other beings. One on Jesus’ side of the table (at the end though) and two on my side of the table, again at the end of my side of the table. The one on the end of Jesus’ side was a very tall, hooded being dressed all in white. He had one of those hoods that was tall and pointy with the point extending upwards. Though I couldn’t see this tall being's face, I could tell he had a long beard and a book in front of him. On the end of my side of the table there were two beings, the one furthest from me had the same hood and a face that was blurred so I couldn’t make out his face at all. To his left, a third being who was completely different. Like a figure from ancient Greece or Rome. He wore a short white skirt-like tunic and had a bowl-cut hairstyle with white hair and a perfect circular bald spot.

All three had their own books but this last one stood up, holding his book, and walked toward me. As he got closer, I suddenly remembered I knew him, these are my friends, I knew all of them forever even though I’ve never seen them before but I understand now how unbelievable that may sound. As the Greek-looking man/friend approached I felt like I was going to hug him but he stopped a few feet away from me and turned to face Jesus and was instantly in front of Jesus. The table at this point was not really there or my focus was on this new scene. He showed Jesus his book and they started talking. They looked at the book together and I became anxious all over again and wanted to see what they were looking at. As before, as soon as I thought that, I was instantly there beside them but couldn’t hear what they were saying or see anything in the open book. My position returned to where I had been before being near them. I was really nervous again thinking I don’t know what’s going on here and I’m probably about to get it.

At some point when they were finished, the being walked away and Jesus turned to me and just opened his arms. When he did that, WOW, a brilliant, blinding light poured out of him, pure love and it just hit me in the chest like a freight train. It was pure love, again, this is emotional for me. It was overwhelming when he did that. No judgment. Just compassion. Just love. I felt like a little baby being held. I don’t know what I was doing, maybe kneeling or whatever but he reached down and pulled me right up and out of where I was at that point and we just merged into each other. At that moment, I saw every detail of his face, every strand of hair. We became one. There are no words to the amount of love, peace and joy he showed me. It felt like he was hugging a little infant, that’s what it felt like.

At that point, I felt like I knew him forever. There were no questions to ask, nothing to talk about. Like I just knew him, and he knew me completely. Now when the light hit me, a lot of things were removed from me. Mostly the fear, the fear was all gone. Erased. My past, my guilt, my bad habits were gone too as if they never existed. For example, I used to drink a lot, for many years.

After that moment, I never drank again. It’s not like I wanted to quit or didn’t want to drink. It was more as if that part of me never existed, like I never drank before. It was strange because I knew I used to drink a lot but it was as if I never drank, didn’t know what it tasted like and things like this. Now I don’t have a problem with people drinking around me and I know how hard it is for people to stop drinking but, for me, that all got completely erased. But the most important thing that was taken away, was the fear.

When I think about it, everything negative is rooted in fear. And when the fear was gone, everything else disappears. To me anything that is controlled by God is peace, joy, and love but anything controlled by fear is negative, like hatred, etc. I would say this loss of fear is related to my understanding that I am not my body. In that reality, outside of this physical world, I realize that we are not our physical selves, our spirit is having a human experience but we are not this body or our thoughts or our experiences. You can say that we are spirits created in the image of our Creator. After this experience and realizing all this, it's as if I’m a new person, like I’d been reset. Fear, anger, judgement, none of it lived in me anymore; it doesn’t control me like it used to. I now enjoy life more and returned to more of who I was meant to be and who I used to be in life. I became more loving, innocent and childlike.

After that, something happened and I know Jesus and I had a conversation but I don’t remember it and I don’t think I was allowed to remember that.

Next thing I do remember was walking out of the cabin with Jesus through the door frame. We turned to the left and stepped onto a stone pathway made of what looked like golden glass, it was alive with this light shining out but it’s so difficult to explain. Imagine a stone made of glass or crystal and this light inside of it just shining outward and hitting everything. The funny thing is it was all white, brilliant white. And still, Jesus was brighter than anything else. I mean I don’t know how many shades of white there can possibly be but he was the brightest of the brightest white there.

As we walked I looked to the right side and saw a cabin and this person came out with a bucket of water to empty it, like they were just cleaning the house. As soon as I saw that I remembered my wife who is always cleaning. And the moment I thought of her, I was gone and instantly was out of that place and was in my room looking at myself but not from the ceiling but as if I was on the wall looking directly at my body that was still sitting. One second I was looking at it from the outside and the next second I was in my body looking out at the wall where Injudt was.

On that wall I see this huge opening, a portal or tunnel, going right through the wall. Unlike the one I described earlier which was blurry, I could see this one clearly and could look right through it. I saw the blue sky and the clouds and Jesus was standing outside of that space in the physical room with me but there were also two other beings still in the portal/tunnel, one on the left and another on the right further back into the tunnel. Jesus was standing there in front of me and said:

“Remember, all that truly matters is Love, Love is the only thing that’s real.”

And these were his last words to me and then the portal slowly got smaller and smaller until it closed up. The portal and Jesus were gone and here I was, just sitting on my bed feeling kind of silly now because I was just staring at this plain wall scanning it, waiting for it to open up again so I can get out of there. I still had no idea of who I really was or why I was there and it took months to adjust to this world again and who I was as Luis. For some time, I would just break down weeping, especially when I thought of Jesus. Sometimes I would just pull over my car until I could get it together. This physical world just didn’t feel real anymore, not like that one. Now, several years later, the biggest thing for me is I see the beauty of creation, the divine, in everything.


Background Information:

Gender: Male

Date NDE Occurred: Late 2019

NDE Elements:

At the time of your experience, was there an associated life-threatening event? Yes Illness Life threatening event, but not clinical death. I stopped breathing and was sitting on my bed

How do you consider the content of your experience? Entirely pleasant

Did you feel separated from your body? No. I clearly left my body and existed outside it

How did your highest level of consciousness and alertness during the experience compare to your normal everyday consciousness and alertness? More consciousness and alertness than normal. It was a completely different experience, I knew all things without any effort

At what time during the experience were you at your highest level of consciousness and alertness? The second I left my body

Were your thoughts speeded up? Incredibly fast

Did time seem to speed up or slow down? Everything seemed to be happening at once; or time stopped or lost all meaning

Were your senses More vivid than usual? Incredibly more vivid

Please compare your vision during the experience to your everyday vision that you had immediately prior to the time of the experience. I can see everything all around without any effort or limitations

Please compare your hearing during the experience to your everyday hearing that you had immediately prior to the time of the experience. Same

Did you seem to be aware of things going on elsewhere? No

Did you pass into or through a tunnel? Uncertain

Did you see any beings in your experience? I actually saw them

Did you encounter or become aware of any deceased (or alive) beings? No

Did you see, or feel surrounded by, a brilliant light? A light clearly of mystical or other-worldly origin

Did you see an unearthly light? Yes

Did you seem to enter some other, unearthly world? A clearly mystical or unearthly realm. Everything was made out of light and love

What emotions did you feel during the experience? Wow! I can’t explain

Did you have a feeling of peace or pleasantness? Incredible peace or pleasantness

Did you have a feeling of joy? Incredible joy

Did you feel a sense of harmony or unity with the universe? I felt united or one with the world

Did you suddenly seem to understand everything? Everything about the universe

Did scenes from your past come back to you? I remembered many past events I had a life review before my NDE

Did scenes from the future come to you? No

Did you come to a border or point of no return? I came to a barrier that I was not permitted to cross; or was sent back against my will. Hard to tell what it was

God, Spiritual and Religion:

What was your religion prior to your experience? Unaffiliated- Atheist

Have your religious practices changed since your experience? Yes I know that religion is of man and not of God

What is your religion now? Select. I am not religious at all

Did your experience include features consistent with your earthly beliefs? Content that was entirely not consistent with the beliefs you had at the time of your experience. I was an atheist

Did you have a change in your values and beliefs because of your experience? Yes I know God, Jesus, and heaven exists

Did you seem to encounter a mystical being or presence, or hear an unidentifiable voice? I encountered a definite being, or a voice clearly of mystical or unearthly origin. It was like a metallic voice at first

Did you see deceased or religious spirits? I actually saw them

Did you encounter or become aware of any beings who previously lived on earth who are described by name in religions (for example: Jesus, Muhammad, Buddha, etc.)? Yes I was with Jesus. He had brown, coppery hair and a perfect beach-tan color, brown eyes at first, then they were blue eyes with the entire universe in them afterwards

During your experience, did you gain information about premortal existence? Yes We have always existed

During your experience, did you gain information about universal connection or oneness? Yes We’re one with all things created

During your experience, did you gain information about the existence of God? Yes

Concerning our Earthly lives other than Religion:

During your experience, did you gain special knowledge or information about your purpose? Yes

During your experience, did you gain information about the meaning of life? Uncertain

During your experience, did you gain information about an afterlife? Yes

Did you gain information about how to live our lives? Yes

During your experience, did you gain information about life's difficulties, challenges and hardships? No

During your experience, did you gain information about love? Yes Love is the only thing that’s real Jesus said to me

What life changes occurred in your life after your experience? Large changes in my life

Have your relationships changed specifically because of your experience? Yes The knowing of the existence of God give me the need to give love to all things he created

After the NDE:

Was the experience difficult to express in words? Yes There are no words in the vocabulary to explain

How accurately do you remember the experience in comparison to other life events that occurred around the time of the experience? I remember the experience more accurately than other life events that occurred around the time of the experience. My experience is the only thing that’s real to me, this life is just an experience we’re having in this human body. It is not real and is nothing more than a experience we choose to have for whatever reason

Do you have any psychic, non-ordinary or other special gifts after your experience that you did not have before the experience? Yes I rather not say

Are there one or several parts of your experience that are especially meaningful or significant to you? Having the hand of God delivering Jesus to my presence and stop drinking alcohol

Have you ever shared this experience with others? Yes Part of my family and on Jeff Mara podcast and IANDS group

Did you have any knowledge of near death experience (NDE) prior to your experience? No

What did you believe about the reality of your experience shortly (days to weeks) after it happened? Experience was probably not real. I was an atheist so it took two OBEs for me to finally accepted

What do you believe about the reality of your experience now? Experience was definitely real. I have no doubt

At any time in your life, has anything ever reproduced any part of the experience? No

Is there anything else that you would like to add about your experience? It was real

Are there any other questions that we could ask to help you communicate your experience? I don’t know

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