Penny W ADC

Experience Description

When I was around 30 years old, my grandfather was in hospital and terminally ill with cancer. At the time of his death, I was with him in the hospital along with my mother. Before he died and before I arrived he had specifically asked my mother to call me and ask me to come to the hospital. I left my work and came to the hospital. A couple of hours later he died with my mother and I by his bedside.

After he died, I had to leave. My mother stayed longer to sit next to his dead body as she said goodbye. She did not tell me anything about what she did after I left until after the experienced shared death experience I describe below.

About two months later, just before my mother was due to take my grandfather's ashes to be scattered on the golf course with my Nana. I feel asleep one night. But, I was half-awake when suddenly my grandfather was next to me on my bed. This actually unsettled me to begin with and then I remember falling asleep properly. The next thing I knew I was with my grandfather in what felt like and still feels like very real. But it could be called a dream-like experience.

I was now with him walking on the golf course. He was telling me that he was fine now and where he was it was much better than where he had been on earth. He joked and said in his very normal, lovely sense of humor, "It’s a damn sight better than how it feels when you are alive, believe me." He laughed, we both laughed. I then went on to ask him how will I be able to know this is not just a dream when I wake up to tell the family. He told me straight away, 'Remember the number 16-80-08 and go and tell your mother, it’s to do with the hospital visit you both had with me. She will know.'

When I awoke I profoundly remembered what he told me, feeling like I had not just dreamed of him, but actually saw him. My mother at this time was quite skeptical about life after death. I knew I needed to pass on this message to her, so I felt apprehensive. I called her and tried to tell her to be as open-minded as possible. I told her that I had a dream with grandfather and that he had given me this number to pass onto you, 16-80-08. My mother went very quiet and told me that she had to go and would get back to me. She needed to go and check something out. After the call when she got back, she told me that after I left the hospital, she had secretly taken his hospital band from his wrist. I had not seen her do that when I was at the hospital. On the rest band was the number "16-80-08." She had taken this and hidden it at home. After I phoned her, she went to look at the wrist band. She noticed that the number in the inside of the band had the number he had given me in the dream. After he died, he was aware she had taken his wrist band and that it had the number on it. He was able to tell me from the other side; tell me months later, that she had taken this and it had this number on it. This felt like a profound shared-death experience between myself, my grandfather and mother.

Background Information:

Gender: Female

Date NDE Occurred: 1995

NDE Elements:

At the time of your experience, was there an associated life-threatening event? No. Other: I had what might be referred to a shared death experience where I shared a communication from my grandfather

How do you consider the content of your experience? Entirely pleasant

Did you feel separated from your body? No I lost awareness of my body

How did your highest level of consciousness and alertness during the experience compare to your normal everyday consciousness and alertness? More consciousness and alertness than normal Colors were much more vivid

At what time during the experience were you at your highest level of consciousness and alertness? During the time we were walking together on the golf course

Were your thoughts speeded up? No

Did time seem to speed up or slow down? Time seemed to go faster or slower than usual Although lots happened I can’t understand how it all happened in the space of the dream time.

Were your senses More vivid than usual? More vivid than usual

Please compare your vision during the experience to your everyday vision that you had immediately prior to the time of the experience. The feeling was incredibly liberating and light

Please compare your hearing during the experience to your everyday hearing that you had immediately prior to the time of the experience. I did not seem to directly speak to my grandfather using words it was more t like telepathic

Did you seem to be aware of things going on elsewhere? Yes, and the facts have been checked out

Did you pass into or through a tunnel? No

Did you see any beings in your experience? I actually saw them

Did you encounter or become aware of any deceased (or alive) beings? Yes My grandfather looking healthy and happy. Somewhat younger than he was before he died

Did you see, or feel surrounded by, a brilliant light? An unusually bright light

Did you see an unearthly light? Yes The place I visited my grandfather, the golf course, had a different light realm, with different brightness and color

Did you seem to enter some other, unearthly world? No

What emotions did you feel during the experience? Profound love and relief. The sadness and loss of my grandfather disappeared

Did you have a feeling of peace or pleasantness? Relief or calmness

Did you have a feeling of joy? Incredible joy

Did you feel a sense of harmony or unity with the universe? I felt no longer in conflict with nature

Did you suddenly seem to understand everything? No

Did scenes from your past come back to you? No

Did scenes from the future come to you? No

Did you come to a border or point of no return? No

God, Spiritual and Religion:

What was your religion prior to your experience? Do not know I am a spiritual person but do not align with any particular religion

Have your religious practices changed since your experience? Yes More spiritual

What is your religion now? Do not know I don’t follow any religion but have a strong belief in spirituality and have an ongoing feeling around me that there is a spiritual realm beyond this earthy realm

Did your experience include features consistent with your earthly beliefs? Content that was both consistent and not consistent with the beliefs you had at the time of your experience. At the time I had an awareness of the possibility of life after death but had not had such a profound personal encounter with it.

Did you have a change in your values and beliefs because of your experience? Yes I become much more focused on my spiritual beliefs and this has become much more part of my understanding of life

Did you seem to encounter a mystical being or presence, or hear an unidentifiable voice? I encountered a definite being, or a voice clearly of mystical or unearthly origin My grandfather

Did you see deceased or religious spirits? I actually saw them

Did you encounter or become aware of any beings who previously lived on earth who are described by name in religions (for example: Jesus, Muhammad, Buddha, etc.)? No

During your experience, did you gain information about premortal existence? No

During your experience, did you gain information about universal connection or oneness? Yes From the information my grandfather gave me

During your experience, did you gain information about the existence of God? No

Concerning our Earthly lives other than Religion:

During your experience, did you gain special knowledge or information about your purpose? Yes My grandfather told me that he was giving me this special information to pass onto me and the family so we could be relieved of the sadness of death and that we will all reunite. I knew I had a duty to pass this onto the whole family

During your experience, did you gain information about the meaning of life? Yes Please see above

During your experience, did you gain information about an afterlife? No

Did you gain information about how to live our lives? No

During your experience, did you gain information about life's difficulties, challenges and hardships? No

During your experience, did you gain information about love? Yes My grandfather let us know how much he loved us all in a profound felt sense

What life changes occurred in your life after your experience? Large changes in my life

Have your relationships changed specifically because of your experience? Yes More compassionate

After the NDE:

Was the experience difficult to express in words? Yes Trying to express the lovely feeling is hard to express in words

How accurately do you remember the experience in comparison to other life events that occurred around the time of the experience? I remember the experience more accurately than other life events that occurred around the time of the experience

Do you have any psychic, non-ordinary or other special gifts after your experience that you did not have before the experience? Yes I followed this up and later worked as a psychic medium connecting with other people on the other side, helping to pass on messages between people hear on this earthly realm and their loved ones on the other side.

Are there one or several parts of your experience that are especially meaningful or significant to you? Just that the idea of life and death and the fact that there is separation between our living life and death feels distorted. My awareness that those who have passed on are still alive in consciousness at least, is very clear

Have you ever shared this experience with others? Yes A few hours. Complete shock from others as it made so much sense and there was evidence

Did you have any knowledge of near death experience (NDE) prior to your experience? Yes Only through books and media

What did you believe about the reality of your experience shortly (days to weeks) after it happened? Experience was definitely real Very clear

What do you believe about the reality of your experience now? Experience was definitely real Still very clear

At any time in your life, has anything ever reproduced any part of the experience? Yes I have had further visions or messages from my grandfather

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